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Surenos
Apr 19, 2010 23:35:38 GMT -8
Post by foto on Apr 19, 2010 23:35:38 GMT -8
Never mind I read some of the earlier posts. So Sur is a southern california gang started in prison and norte is a northern california prison gang. So outside of California does geography or where you are born really even matter?
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Surenos
Apr 20, 2010 6:38:00 GMT -8
Post by Brad on Apr 20, 2010 6:38:00 GMT -8
Hey, I have a question. Does sureno automatically mean your down with the letter 13? And norteno automatically with 14? If a L.A. gang member were to move to washington and wanted to start up his gang here wouldn't the guys he recruits from here become surenos? Or would florencia 13 become florencia 14 up in washington? Last time I checked there was no letter "13"
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Surenos
Apr 20, 2010 7:01:58 GMT -8
Post by Brad on Apr 20, 2010 7:01:58 GMT -8
Sureños (Spanish for "Southerners") are a group of Mexican American street gangs with origins in the oldest barrios of Southern California. There are hundreds of Sureño gangs in California, and each has its own identity on the streets. Although they are based in Southern California, their influence has spread to many parts of the US and other countries as well.
The gang's alleged roots came from a jail discussion between the Mexican Mafia (La EME) and Nuestra Familia (NF). Those who sided with La EME aligned themselves in the south (sureño=southerner) while those that sided with the NF aligned themselves in Northern California (norteños=northeners). Besides Southern California, Sureños can be found in more than 30 states (primarily in southwestern and central states). Norteños appear mostly in the northern areas of California, but are also present in numbers in other states
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Surenos
Apr 20, 2010 7:07:32 GMT -8
Post by X-Rated on Apr 20, 2010 7:07:32 GMT -8
Never mind I read some of the earlier posts. So Sur is a southern california gang started in prison and norte is a northern california prison gang. So outside of California does geography or where you are born really even matter? Like I said I do know some older Surenos that dont even fuck with with Home growns around here they laugh at the shit I be telling I do to the PBS & LVL fakes around here . . lol
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Surenos
Apr 20, 2010 10:13:56 GMT -8
Post by turfj on Apr 20, 2010 10:13:56 GMT -8
Sureños (Spanish for "Southerners") are a group of Mexican American street gangs with origins in the oldest barrios of Southern California. There are hundreds of Sureño gangs in California, and each has its own identity on the streets. Although they are based in Southern California, their influence has spread to many parts of the US and other countries as well. The gang's alleged roots came from a jail discussion between the Mexican Mafia (La EME) and Nuestra Familia (NF). Those who sided with La EME aligned themselves in the south (sureño=southerner) while those that sided with the NF aligned themselves in Northern California (norteños=northeners). Besides Southern California, Sureños can be found in more than 30 states (primarily in southwestern and central states). Norteños appear mostly in the northern areas of California, but are also present in numbers in other states a southerner is someone born in the south, not the southside of town. surenos born in east,west,or north LA are still surenos because they are born in the south.
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Surenos
Apr 20, 2010 12:29:05 GMT -8
Post by foto on Apr 20, 2010 12:29:05 GMT -8
My bad. I meant number 13. I should of said letter M. Thanks for the input. I just don't get where you are born has to do with it. Are Nortenos who are born in Mexico really Surenos?
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Surenos
Apr 20, 2010 20:53:22 GMT -8
Post by X-Rated on Apr 20, 2010 20:53:22 GMT -8
Are Nortenos who are born in Mexico really Surenos? Most of these mufukas is ass backwards like that .. but I'd have to agree with that.
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Surenos
Apr 21, 2010 7:20:20 GMT -8
Post by Brad on Apr 21, 2010 7:20:20 GMT -8
My bad. I meant number 13. I should of said letter M. Thanks for the input. I just don't get where you are born has to do with it. Are Nortenos who are born in Mexico really Surenos? This who conversation is pretty stupid ya know. So much has changed since the 1950's/60's when the whole Northern/Southern gang line was drawn in California. There is Mara Salvatrucha 13 in San Francisco, which has always been dominated by Nortenos. MS-13 in S.F. is just as bad ass as the ones you'll find in Pico-Union neighborhood of L.A. Like I said a few posts ago, gangs have migrated to unclaimed territory, to make money, to get away from law enforcement. The territorial boundaries in California means nothing up here in Washington State. If a Mexican kid growing up in West Yakima wants to join a gang, chances are he will get jumped into a Sureno clique. He ain't going to join a Norteno gang just because he was born and raised north of Bakersfield, California. That makes no sense up here. That would be like saying all the Blood gangs in Washington state are fake because most the members aren't from Compton. I don't believe that is true, but it goes both ways.
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Surenos
Apr 22, 2010 11:21:51 GMT -8
Post by sanxjonero on Apr 22, 2010 11:21:51 GMT -8
BGloco is right because SURENO does not mean So Cal. get out with the old and in with the new. Its the same thing with you boods and crips being born up here but the real ones are from cali. So you must be fake im guessing.... But what i saw was a black dude claiming to be a norteno... not to weird nowadays LOL . . . You foos is Nortes . . . Born in the North = Norte simple as that. If we was banging Eastcoast shit then ya'll might have a script to flip . . . WTF does Sureno means then? How are we fake we aint reppin no ass backwards shit lol That's way up North, so it's not as bad as if they were born in Norte Calif.. They just want to be down with the South, kinda like a Yank wanting to be down w/the South. LOL Well like I said: at least they ain't from Nor*Cal, cuzz "Norte Surenos" are retarded.
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Surenos
Apr 22, 2010 11:28:04 GMT -8
Post by sanxjonero on Apr 22, 2010 11:28:04 GMT -8
My bad. I meant number 13. I should of said letter M. Thanks for the input. I just don't get where you are born has to do with it. Are Nortenos who are born in Mexico really Surenos? This who conversation is pretty stupid ya know. So much has changed since the 1950's/60's when the whole Northern/Southern gang line was drawn in California. There is Mara Salvatrucha 13 in San Francisco, which has always been dominated by Nortenos. MS-13 in S.F. is just as bad ass as the ones you'll find in Pico-Union neighborhood of L.A. Like I said a few posts ago, gangs have migrated to unclaimed territory, to make money, to get away from law enforcement. The territorial boundaries in California means nothing up here in Washington State. If a Mexican kid growing up in West Yakima wants to join a gang, chances are he will get jumped into a Sureno clique. He ain't going to join a Norteno gang just because he was born and raised north of Bakersfield, California. That makes no sense up here. That would be like saying all the Blood gangs in Washington state are fake because most the members aren't from Compton. I don't believe that is true, but it goes both ways. I heard they got MS in SF trying to bang 14 too tho.. LMAO & of course if the MSX3 in SF are the real 1's from LA, then of course they're real. MS likes to move around a lot.
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Surenos
Apr 22, 2010 20:38:43 GMT -8
Post by Ese-Serio on Apr 22, 2010 20:38:43 GMT -8
Its stupid to argue about this because the point is.... that I'm a Sureno no matter what anybody says. A side doesn't make a gang the members in it do. So say what you want but shit has changed but you folks don't seem to understand that. We still put in work either way you think we are fake or not. We still going to ride for the hood and that's whats making us real.
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Surenos
Apr 23, 2010 7:10:36 GMT -8
Post by Brad on Apr 23, 2010 7:10:36 GMT -8
I'll tell you who the real fakes are, up mostly in Snohomish County and Whatcom County there are a group of preppy white guys claiming East Side Piru and West Side Piru. Now to me if any gang is fake, it would be them.
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Surenos
Apr 23, 2010 8:51:08 GMT -8
Post by lazyboy on Apr 23, 2010 8:51:08 GMT -8
I'll tell you who the real fakes are, up mostly in Snohomish County and Whatcom County there are a group of preppy white guys claiming East Side Piru and West Side Piru. Now to me if any gang is fake, it would be them. Word from my homeboy is that all the MF'z klaimin paramount up there are fakes too.....Yeah still confused on how ESP got copycatted up there but whateva....
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Surenos
Apr 23, 2010 8:52:38 GMT -8
Post by lazyboy on Apr 23, 2010 8:52:38 GMT -8
Its stupid to argue about this because the point is.... that I'm a Sureno no matter what anybody says. A side doesn't make a gang the members in it do. So say what you want but shit has changed but you folks don't seem to understand that. We still put in work either way you think we are fake or not. We still going to ride for the hood and that's whats making us real. yup, yup and a "fake" can kill a "real" any day of the week too.
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Surenos
Apr 23, 2010 11:15:50 GMT -8
Post by X-Rated on Apr 23, 2010 11:15:50 GMT -8
I'll tell you who the real fakes are, up mostly in Snohomish County and Whatcom County there are a group of preppy white guys claiming East Side Piru and West Side Piru. Now to me if any gang is fake, it would be them. It's everywhere and everyones false claiming shit . . I've said it before one of the things that irk me the most is banging in square parts of the map . . Shit if you got a decent place to live and dont got to worry bout REAL day to day violence you a stupid mufuka I dont care where you came from. There's only one ESP and NGB is right next door
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